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Chloe Angyal is a senior majoring in Sociology at Princeton University. Raised in Sydney, Australia, Chloe aspires to be a writer, a voice for her generation, and an all-around good person. In her spare time, she loves to dance, sing, ice skate, drink good wine, eat good food, rock out to bad music ...
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The Name Game

Monday, July, 21, 2008

A few weeks ago, I was having dinner with some friends when a topic arose, igniting a fierce debate, and leaving me thinking for several weeks about something I rarely contemplate: marriage. The central topic of the debate was whether or not the women in the room, two of whom were hard core feminists, planned to take their husbands’ name when they got married.


    Marriage is something I try to think about as infrequently as possible, except to assure my friends that it’s an institution in which I have little to no interest (I haven’t managed to convince them yet).

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    But the question of whether or not I’d take my imaginary husband’s name is not a difficult one to answer: I wouldn’t. Perhaps it’s because I wouldn’t see it as taking someone else’s name, but giving away my own, which I’ve had since birth. Also, having survived a childhood of medal ceremonies and a school career of attendance-taking with a last name that presents something of a pronunciation challenge (it’s pronounced “angel”, by the way), I’m quite attached to it. Not to mention the fact that I rather like my father, who gave it to me.

    My mother jokes that she kept her own name because she had printed too many business cards using her maiden name to justify the change, but I suspect that in reality, her motivation was more political than practical. And I’ve always thought I’d do the same. After all, Chloe Angyal is who I’ve always been, and I can’t imagine that marriage would change my life so much that it should change who I am or what I call myself.

    The most interesting part of the debate by far came when the women in the room posed that same question to the men, asking if they would take their wife’s name. The answer was a resounding “no”; the men in the room couldn’t even entertain the notion. I was disappointed, though unsurprised by their reaction. It’s taken a while for men to become comfortable with the idea that their future wives might not be changing their names when they marry, so the idea that men might have to adopt what has traditionally been the woman’s role will take even longer to gain acceptance (and let’s be honest, we might never get there). Then again, with more and more states allowing gay marriage, it won’t always be unheard of for men to take their partner’s name. Perhaps straight men will be next (for more on gay marriage and what it means for us straight girls who aren’t all that into the institution, read Courtney Martin’s piece in The American Prospect

    We tried to come up with a few solutions to the name issue, but had little success. One of the women present said that she would be willing to compromise on the last name – that is, she would take it, and her children would be also be given it - if her kids could be given first names that reflected the culture in which she, their mother, was raised. She’s Indian, and believes that a person’s heritage is something they should think about every day.

    When I insisted that a person’s last name is also a part of their heritage (mine, for example, is Hungarian, and reflects my grandfather’s just-in-time journey out of Eastern Europe to Australia, where the pronunciation was Anglicized but the spelling was not), one of the men expressed his idea that husband, wife and children should all have the same last name if they were to truly be a family. In the end, we could come to no agreement, leaving us to conclude nothing except that none of the people in that room could ever marry each other.
    Personally, I’m for the eradication of the last name altogether. Hey, it worked for Madonna.

Married women and engaged women: how did you handle the name issue?

Unmarried women: what would you do?


sarahthequeen05
sarahthequeen05
Posted Tue, 07/22/2008 - 10:28
This was a big issue for me when I got married 2 years ago. I ended up hyphenating for a few reasons. First of all, my name (Sarah Davis), is so common that we have our own facebook group with a few hundred members. Not only that, but many of those hundreds have Elizabeth as a middle name, as I do. My husband's sister is also a Sarah Elizabeth (and graduated from the same women's college I did, 3 years earlier). His mother was my high school senior English teacher, and it was hard enough remembering to call her by her first name, that it would be über strange for me to also be Mrs. Harwood. I hyphenated to give myself a totally unique name. I was lucky in that Hubby couldn't care either way, whether I took his or kept my maiden name or hyphenated. And yes, I am one of those annoying people who correct others on my name- I've accidentally gotten Susan Harwood's payroll info at work because others won't pay attention to the fact that I am found alphabetically under "D", not "H".
BCBlogger
BCBlogger
Posted Tue, 07/22/2008 - 14:33
Although, I like your opinion and your explanation of it. It makes a lot of sense, you know? For me, I just didn't, never, and still don't have an attachment to my name - first or last. People can say "Hey, you. . ." and I totally don't care. I don't know why I feel that way, I just do! But I see absolutely nothing wrong with keeping your last name if you like it, you're attached to it or if the man you're betrothed to has a last name like "Snozzlegrass." What kind of hell would that be? (Begging forgiveness if your last name is, indeed, Snozzlegrass.) Of course, in marriage, people make concessions, compromises, etc. But if a woman were attached to her name, either professionally or emotionally. . .or for any reason, I would hope that the husband could get over himself and not view it as a rejection. The wife committed himself to him, what more does he need? If an eradication of who you are/were/want to be is what would satisfy him, his proposal probably shouldn't be considered. LOL!
margaret
margaret
Posted Thu, 07/24/2008 - 15:35
i'm keeping mine, i think we've got to start somewhere! i like to use this blog post as a handy reference: http://piepmeier.blogspot.com/2006/01/most-common-name-change-question_2...
margaret
margaret
Posted Fri, 07/25/2008 - 09:00
oh and also, i remembered what i wanted to add: i think that when women and young girls use the excuse that they're not all that attached to their name (and even prefer their partner's anyway), that seems like an indication of the way we grow up in this society -- never feeling attached to our names because we've been told we'll get new ones. and meanwhile, that thought never even occurs to little boys! of course they wouldn't give theirs up. (note to self: petition boyfriend to take my name. after that, smash patriarchy)
Chloe Angyal
Chloe Angyal
Posted Fri, 07/25/2008 - 10:46
You're hilarious, Margaret. Also on the to-do list: build world peace, end hunger and disease, and eliminate reality TV. "I do not wish women to have power over men, but over themselves" - Mary Wollstonecraft